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ATSC 3.0 News - WUXP and WNAB


- Posted June 23rd, 2020 at 11:17am
Both WUXP's RF channel 21 and WNAB's RF channel 30 in 1.0 are now gone. You can now rescan. If you rescanned at 10am, you could have gotten two sets of WUXP's channels and two sets of WNAB's channels. They were both broadcasting the channels at that time. I don't know for sure about 3.0 because I can't receive it, but NextgenTV could be on the air now in Nashville. Until more news breaks, that's all for now.

19 Comments




botts_w
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 11:33am

I haven't rescanned and have four WNAB 58 channels taht are showing and four with no signal, same with WUXP 30 channels three that show and three that don't, so i am gonna rescan so to delete the old ones.



NashDigie
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 11:41am

Some TVs/converter boxes are like that. My LG TV does that. Therefore, I didn't need to rescan. I just deleted the now old channels, but some you have to rescan to pick up the new relocated channels.


itgrouch
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 11:44am - Edited

At 11:35 AM, I performed the rescan on my TV and my two TiVo OTA DVRs. My TV scan went without a hitch. The TiVo's have the two sets of WUXP and WNAB channels. I manually set them to skip the now nonexistent channels. Also, there is no program guide data for the new channels. Over the next few days of the TiVo DVRs connecting daily to TiVo's servers, the duplicate channels should drop off and the program guide populating with program data. No problems receiving WUXP or WNAB on their new frequencies. It will be interesting to see what happens in the future with WNPT and WSMV and their ATSC 3.0 plans, as well as the other stations in the market that are not broadcasting in ATSC 3.0. Also, when ATSC 1.0 goes dark, I wonder what will happen with WKRN and WTVF transmission facilities?



n2radio
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 1:32pm

I am pretty sure when ATSC 1.0 goes dark (on 6/23/2025 if they stick to the five year plan), all broadcasters will migrate to their current assigned frequencies to broadcast in 3.0. Once the five years is up, there shouldn't be a need to channel share.



NashDigie
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 2:51pm

I looked it up, and on all 3.0 guest station filings (WKRN, WTVF, and WZTV), they have said the current 3.0 sharing will end in four years (06/23/2024) not five years. What will happen to 1.0 service? I have no idea. They may end up extending it for a little more time. I don't know.


itgrouch
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 4:27pm

Thanks NashDigie and n2radio for the info.


Random Guy
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 5:28pm

I'm pretty sure the law is 5 years unless it;s been changed


Random Guy
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 5:31pm

They could migrate back to their original frequencies. Some might see the value of sharing as cost cutting move. How much value is there going to be in sub-channels at that time? are people still going to be interested in re-runs of Sanford and Son? Also in Sinclair's case they own 3 stations so they could move all 3 on one channel and lease out the other 2 for broadband. However that is supposed to work.


n2radio
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 1:35pm

As predicted, today I get a pixelated signal on 58-1 (channel share with WKRN) and solid signals for 58-2, -3 and -4 (channel share with WTVF).



Random Guy
- Posted on June 23rd, 2020 at 5:36pm

Trying to run 2 HD channels and have SD subchannels isn't going to work with ATSC 1.0. You're lucky just to make 2 HD channels work. it wouldn't shock me to see the subchanels to eventually go away. how many people are actually watching Bounce, Justice and Grit anyway?


botts_w
- Posted on June 24th, 2020 at 6:47pm - Edited

Well I live in south central Kentucky about a mile from the Tennessee line, I am getting the best WNAB signal I have ever got, I can see the channels all day and night now, before I could only get night service. I like charge so now I am set, even my little chinese $10 antenna up only 12 feet pulls in 2 bars in my bedroom. all the other channels are good too but they were already good before the change. My living room antenna is 17 feet up and I get 3-4 bars on most all of the channels.



Random Guy
- Posted on June 25th, 2020 at 12:16am

That because it's on the same frequency as WKRN now


TSrich
- Posted on June 26th, 2020 at 12:49pm

Just found this site today, 26 June. I was receiving Fox 17 and WUXP 30 (MyTV30) prior to the change to ATSC 3.0. I have rescanned all 3 of my TV's (of various ages) and none of them now receive Fox 17 or WUXP 30. One of the TV's is less than a year old and has an ATSC 3.0 tuner. I am located 31 miles away from the transmission tower. Does anyone know if the new format is being broadcast at a lower power than previous?



NashDigie
- Posted on June 26th, 2020 at 4:51pm

No, they are not broadcasting at a lower power. They are broadcasting the same power as they was before. You should be able to get both Fox 17 and MyTV 30 on all your TVs with no problems, especially since you are living so close to them. I live about 50-60 miles away, and I am receiving them just fine. By the way, about the 3.0, there should be two signals - one on RF channel 21 (old WUXP broadcast channel) and the other on RF channel 30 (old WNAB broadcast channel). Let me know if you can receive the new 3.0 channels. I am interested in seeing how it looks.


TSrich
- Posted on June 26th, 2020 at 9:43pm

I'm still not receiving Fox 17 or MyTV 30 on either RF 21 or RF 30. I've had problems getting as strong a signal from Fox last year when I lived closer to the transmission site when compared to signal strength from WTVF Channel 5. I think the transmission site for Channel 5 is the same or very close to that of 17. I was living on the northwest side of Franklin until November 2019 and moved farther south to Thompsons Station in November 2019. It took some time for me to get my antenna array setup for optimum reception for all of the Nashville area broadcast channels. Once I got that configuration maximized I noticed the signal was still weakest from Fox 17 whereas all of the other channels came in very strong.



Random Guy
- Posted on June 27th, 2020 at 8:32am

Fox for some stupid reason still uses a highly directional antenna that has it's strength form NW to SE. Which in my location reduces it's power level from 1000 kW to 174 kW and living 75 miles away means no Fox 17 for me except at night and then only sometimes. I though when they were on CH 15 maybe there was some reason they had to use this antenna because of interference but since they changed channels it shouldn't be an issue. I'd like to see someone form Fox explain why since they we switching antenna anyways why they didn't go with an omni directional one. Of course Sinclair's other 2 stations also have this same issue so maybe it's the company excuse everyone else is not stupid.


romer979fm
- Posted on June 29th, 2020 at 12:39pm

semi-related comment/question here: I have successfully rescanned, and everyone looks good (still having issues with WNPX since their move to Cross Plains)... my question has to do with legal ID requirements. WJFB 44.1 used to use a CG legal ID over the "MeTV" bumper at the top of the hour. Haven't seen one in months. all the other stations and sub channels appear to ID visually...why not WJFB? Likely I missed a rule change...or is another way of doing an ID possible? Not pointing fingers...just curious



NashDigie
- Posted on June 29th, 2020 at 2:51pm

Yeah, I have wondered that myself. As far as I know, the rule still applies. I don't know if they know it doesn't appear or not. I think I will e-mail them and let them know or at the very least, ask why it doesn't appear.


n2radio
- Posted on July 2nd, 2020 at 6:32pm

Same owners have WCZU in Bowling Green,Ky. No one apparently is responsible for monitoring the programming for their stations. They own hundreds of signals across the country. I think WCTZ ch 35 runs an “ID” at :00 that is generic like “Station ID, insert city and state here” or similar rather than WCTZ White House.

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